{"fatawa":{"id":13294,"title":"Her husband\u2019s family told her that he had divorced her but she did not hear that from her husband, and he did not write any divorce paper for her","slug":"her-husbands-family-told-her-that-he-had-divorced-her-but-she-did-not-hear-that-from-her-husband-and-he-did-not-write-any-divorce-paper-for-her","order":"","question":"<p>Before our marriage, my husband was involved with another married women,  because of her, he divorced me, he didnt announce divorce to me,  neither send me divorce deed, but his family said he has divorced  me,they are still not providing the divorce paper, am i still in his  nikah, or an irrevocable divorce has taken place in my situation.<\/p>","answer":"<div class=\"list-group-item-text ftwa-single-answer font-nrmal\"><span class=\"line_height\"> Praise be to Allah\r\n<p>Firstly:&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>If the husband      says to someone else, &ldquo;Tell my wife that she is divorced,&rdquo; then divorce      takes place as soon as he says that. It says in <em>al-Mabsoot<\/em> by      as-Sarkhasi (6\/141): If he says to someone else, &ldquo;Tell my wife that she is      divorced,&rdquo; then she is divorced whether he tells her about that or not. End      quote.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>In <em> al-Muheet al-Burhaani fi&rsquo;l-Fiqh an-Nu&lsquo;maani<\/em> (3\/210) it says: If he says      to another man, &ldquo;Tell my wife she is divorced,&rdquo; then she is divorced as soon      as he says that, whether the other man tells her or not. End quote.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>In <em> al-Mudawwanah<\/em> (2\/78) it says: What do you think if a man says to another      man, &ldquo;Tell my wife she is divorced&rdquo;; when does the divorce take place? Is it      on the day he tells her or on the day he told him to tell her? He said:      According to the view of Maalik, the divorce takes place on the day he told      him to tell her. I said: What if he does not tell her? He said: The divorce      still counts as such according to the view of Maalik, even if he did not      tell her, because Maalik said, concerning a man who sent an envoy to his      wife to tell her that he had divorced her, but the envoy withheld that news:      It does not matter; the divorce is still binding. End quote.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>Secondly:&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>With regard to      the wife, if two men of good character told her that her husband had      divorced her, then she must observe &lsquo;iddah on the basis of their testimony.      If they told her that he had issued a first or second talaaq (divorce), then      she must count that among the number of divorces. If they told her that he      had issued a third (and final) talaaq, then she must keep away from him and      leave him.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>As-Sarkhasi      al-Hanafi said: If two men of good character testify in a woman&rsquo;s presence      that her husband has divorced three times, and he denies that, then they die      or disappear before they can give testimony to that effect before the judge,      then the woman cannot stay with him, and it is the same as if she had heard      him divorce her three times, because if they had given this testimony before      the judge, he would have ruled that she is forbidden him. The same applies      if they gave that testimony in her presence.<\/p>\r\n<p>End quote from     <em>al-Mabsoot<\/em> (10\/183).&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>In <em>al-Bahr      ar-Raa&rsquo;iq<\/em> by Ibn Nujaym al-Hanafi (4\/141) it says: If two men testify in      her presence that he (the husband) divorced her, then she has no right to      let him be intimate with her, but if only one person tells her that, then      she has no right to refuse intimacy. End quote.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>In the same      book (4\/141) it also says: &hellip; If a woman is informed of divorce by two men of      good character, it is forbidden for her to let him be intimate with her;      their testimony alone is sufficient, with no need for a court ruling. End      quote.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>Some of the      fuqaha&rsquo; are of the view that if one man of good character tells her that,      she should observe &lsquo;iddah on the basis of what he says, unlike the case if      the one who tells her is not of good character. It says in <em>Qurrat &lsquo;Ayn      al-Akhyaar li<\/em> <em>Takmilat Radd al-Muhtaar<\/em> (7\/511): If a man of good      character tells her that her husband has died or has divorced her thrice,      then she may remarry. But if an individual of bad character tells her that,      she should double check. End quote.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>But what      appears to be the case is that these fuqaha&rsquo; were speaking of such news      being brought by one trustworthy individual on his own in the case of the      husband&rsquo;s absence. It says in <em>al-Fataawa al-Hindiyyah<\/em> (5\/312): If a      man is absent from his wife, then a Muslim of good character comes to her      and tells her that her husband has divorced her thrice or has died, then she      may observe &lsquo;iddah and marry someone else. But if the one who tells her that      is not of good character, then she should double check. End quote.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>In <em> al-Mabsootah<\/em> by as-Sarkhasi (10\/179) it says: Based on that, if a      woman&rsquo;s husband is absent and a trustworthy Muslim tells her that her      husband has divorced her thrice or has died, or if he is not trustworthy but      he brings her a letter from her husband telling her that she is divorced,      and she does not know whether he wrote it or not, but she thinks it most      likely that it is true, then there is nothing wrong with her observing      &lsquo;iddah and remarrying. End quote.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>Whatever the      case, you can check with your husband about something that his family told      you of. If the husband confirms that the divorce has indeed taken place,      then you will be certain and your doubt will be dispelled. If the husband      denies it and the one who told you is of good character, then in that case      you have to refer the matter to the Islamic judge (qaadi) to decide about      this difference. It should be noted that divorce does not become finally      irrevocable except in the case of the third talaaq; in the case of the first      and second talaaq, it is still revocable. Before consummation of the      marriage and being truly alone with the husband, any talaaq is revocable; it      is also revocable if the husband issues a revocable divorce and the &lsquo;iddah      comes to an end without him having taken her back, as we have explained in      fatwas no. <a href=\"http:\/\/islamqa.info\/en\/118557\">118557<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/islamqa.info\/en\/46561\">46561<\/a>.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>And Allah      knows best.<\/p>\r\n<\/span><\/div>\r\n<div style=\"padding: 3px; padding-right: 6px; text-align: right;\">Islam Q&amp;A<\/div>","status":1,"created_at":"2015-04-30T20:52:01.000000Z","updated_at":"2015-04-30T20:52:01.000000Z","language_id":1,"fatawacate_id":47,"parent_id":13293,"author_id":"","books":[],"articles":[],"videos":[],"audios":[],"author_name":"","category_name":"\u0627\u0644\u0637\u0644\u0627\u0642","category_slug":"","get_date":"2015-04-30"},"translations":[],"fatawa_books":[],"fatawa_articles":[],"fatawa_videos":[],"fatawa_audios":[],"url":"http:\/\/www.islamland.com\/eng\/api\/fatawas\/13294"}